tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4385205961037530446.post5800199686620452343..comments2024-01-01T23:41:52.452-05:00Comments on Staring at the View: The Ebionites, Muhammad, and the QuranQuotable Quotes:http://www.blogger.com/profile/10875865758846571469noreply@blogger.comBlogger23125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4385205961037530446.post-48059633965428644112023-06-16T20:32:05.609-04:002023-06-16T20:32:05.609-04:00I agree tooI agree tooAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4385205961037530446.post-39656885247224897362019-02-06T15:15:59.058-05:002019-02-06T15:15:59.058-05:00Bible is full of scientific mistakes but qurann is...Bible is full of scientific mistakes but qurann is unlike that. If it was inspired by bible it would have the same mistakes.<br />Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05071391676298809563noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4385205961037530446.post-43483078574614821682017-06-21T20:23:00.930-04:002017-06-21T20:23:00.930-04:00The author of this article is a true devil in the ...The author of this article is a true devil in the skin. You unscrupulous creature, Before daring to write dirty and unsure substance and fake words on the most prestigious Person on earth, you should have given it a thought. Muhammad peace be upon him is a true Prophet. Muhammad peace be upon him could not resd or write at the time of revelation and it was from the blessings of Allah Almighty to have let him remember the verses, which were first put into writing and shaped up in book at the time of Usman afyet Prophey's demise. Moreover, the Quran was revealed in 23 years of time, not in 10 days. May God drag you to straight path if you have some share in divines blessings, or else make you an example for entire world to see for your plasphamous account.Mehmoodhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12317503224556038256noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4385205961037530446.post-26305326084268641932017-06-21T20:22:32.697-04:002017-06-21T20:22:32.697-04:00The author of this article is a true devil in the ...The author of this article is a true devil in the skin. You unscrupulous creature, Before daring to write dirty and unsure substance and fake words on the most prestigious Person on earth, you should have given it a thought. Muhammad peace be upon him is a true Prophet. Muhammad peace be upon him could not resd or write at the time of revelation and it was from the blessings of Allah Almighty to have let him remember the verses, which were first put into writing and shaped up in book at the time of Usman afyet Prophey's demise. Moreover, the Quran was revealed in 23 years of time, not in 10 days. May God drag you to straight path if you have some share in divines blessings, or else make you an example for entire world to see for your plasphamous account.Mehmoodhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12317503224556038256noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4385205961037530446.post-60083216604085080532017-06-21T20:21:48.509-04:002017-06-21T20:21:48.509-04:00The author of this article is a true devil in the ...The author of this article is a true devil in the skin. You unscrupulous creature, Before daring to write dirty and unsure substance and fake words on the most prestigious Person on earth, you should have given it a thought. Muhammad peace be upon him is a true Prophet. Muhammad peace be upon him could not resd or write at the time of revelation and it was from the blessings of Allah Almighty to have let him remember the verses, which were first put into writing and shaped up in book at the time of Usman afyet Prophey's demise. Moreover, the Quran was revealed in 23 years of time, not in 10 days. May God drag you to straight path if you have some share in divines blessings, or else make you an example for entire world to see for your plasphamous account.Mehmoodhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12317503224556038256noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4385205961037530446.post-9948926241398004932017-06-21T20:20:14.960-04:002017-06-21T20:20:14.960-04:00The author of this article is a true devil in the ...The author of this article is a true devil in the skin. You unscrupulous creature, Before daring to write dirty and unsure substance and fake words on the most prestigious Person on earth, you should have given it a thought. Muhammad peace be upon him is a true Prophet. Muhammad peace be upon him could not resd or write at the time of revelation and it was from the blessings of Allah Almighty to have let him remember the verses, which were first put into writing and shaped up in book at the time of Usman afyet Prophey's demise. Moreover, the Quran was revealed in 23 years of time, not in 10 days. May God drag you to straight path if you have some share in divines blessings, or else make you an example for entire world to see for your plasphamous account.Mehmoodhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12317503224556038256noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4385205961037530446.post-66144905547462418822017-06-11T19:59:03.757-04:002017-06-11T19:59:03.757-04:00I'm quite agree, Nauval kind of his first huma...I'm quite agree, Nauval kind of his first human Mursyid. His teaching opened some revelations to Muhammad, and I think this happened not into very short time.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4385205961037530446.post-35643781729912645312017-03-08T07:45:33.179-05:002017-03-08T07:45:33.179-05:00It is reported in their enemies writings that the ...It is reported in their enemies writings that the Ebionites did reject the virgin birth. That is probably because they go back to James, the biological half brother of Jesus. I am a Muslim but do not accept the doctrine of the literal perpetual virginity of Mariam, though in spirit I believe she was eternally pure.<br /><br />The other reason for rejecting the virgin birth is it was a Greek invention based on the mistranslation of Almah to virgin in the Septuagint, which is not even a prophecy about Jesus.<br /><br />Now obviously I accept (esoterically) the virgin birth, I believe in the Qur'an, but just because the earliest accounts of the Ebionites say they rejected the v.b. doesn't mean by the 7th century they hadn't realized the wisdom in its displaying of the power of God.<br /><br />Also they could have just accepted it upon assimilation with the Muslims as well.<br /><br />There are many reasons, and people who see them, for believing that Islam is the faith of James, Peter and John before Paul corrupted it. Virgin birth or not.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15562540057034660083noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4385205961037530446.post-83620304383361814892016-07-17T01:33:48.258-04:002016-07-17T01:33:48.258-04:00"It's All About Mohammed" a (not fav..."It's All About Mohammed" a (not favorable) biography of Mohammed based upon historical Islamic approved indicates that Mohammed received training from a haniff (monotheistic monk) named Zayd. Three years after Zayd's death, Mohammed began preaching his religion.<br /><br />While "It's All About Muhammed" is a very biased account unfavorable to Mohammmed, it is well researched and I think is correct to focus on the person of Zayd for formative influences on the emergence of Islam. I also recommend the writing of Gabriel Reynolds of Notre Dame university ("The Emergence of Islam")<br /><br />Timhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10101341982792291965noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4385205961037530446.post-8727842760235598052016-06-08T07:38:23.273-04:002016-06-08T07:38:23.273-04:00if a man heart is circumsiced he will no reject to...if a man heart is circumsiced he will no reject to circumcised his penis if it was instruction from his god.Dikynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4385205961037530446.post-71852388155388434542016-02-04T02:44:00.182-05:002016-02-04T02:44:00.182-05:00What horse crap this pathetic article. And mixing ...What horse crap this pathetic article. And mixing truths with lies. The uncle was a sect of the later followers of our beloved messiah yeshua(as) aka Jesus to english speakers. This ignoramus joseph azzi is a devil in human skin. He is clearly a liar and we muslims believe Jesus(as) is the only son of beloved mary (as) and he is a prophet and word sent by Allah/God. And a rabbi meaning teacher. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12841076049821286493noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4385205961037530446.post-71045951647346309262014-08-04T03:40:51.939-04:002014-08-04T03:40:51.939-04:00Great debate! I would say that Waraqa was a nasore...Great debate! I would say that Waraqa was a nasorean. The Quran uses that as a term for Christians and clearly the Jewish followers of Jesus went east after the destruction of Jerusalem. The Nasoreans followed Jewish practices and saw Jesus as Messiah and human. <br />The Nasoreans were led by James, Jesus' brother in Jerusalem, who may have been a nazirite. Paul never met Jesus so there is a likelihood James knew Jesus better!<br />Jesus indicates he is not going to undo any part of the Torah, and therefore remained an Orthodox Jew with a messianic hope in the midst of Roman occupation.<br />It is not known that Nazareth existed at the time. So it is more likely that Jesus was a nazirite or know as originator of the Nasoreans.Robnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4385205961037530446.post-39308984075117043282014-07-02T00:01:44.851-04:002014-07-02T00:01:44.851-04:00The term People of the Book refers to Jews and Nas...The term People of the Book refers to Jews and Nasrani that follow the prophecy in their scripture about the coming of a prophet from the East (Land where Ishmael's descendants inhabit). As the People of the Book were given the message about things to come regarding the righteous servant of God that will obliterate molten images worshiped in East. Nasrani do not refer to Christians that uses Greek Roman gospels, but rather Hebrew alphabet gospels (used by Jewish Nasoreans/Ebionites) that do not posses stories written by Roman scribes.<br /> <br />If the Roman Christians were indeed People of the Book like Jewish followers of Jesus. They should have settled in the East as well awaiting for the arrival of the Servant of God . Just like People of the Book that made settlements surrounding the location of prophecy awaiting for the arrival of the prophet. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4385205961037530446.post-81976338686014462722014-01-08T10:29:29.734-05:002014-01-08T10:29:29.734-05:00Waraqa bin Naufal could not have written these ver...Waraqa bin Naufal could not have written these verse :<br />Al Mukminuun Verse 14.<br />"Then We made the sperm-drop into a clinging clot, and We made the clot into a lump [of flesh], and We made [from] the lump, bones, and We covered the bones with flesh; then We developed him into another creation. So blessed is Allah , the best of creators".<br /><br />It took the learned Dr Maurice Bucaille by surprise which prompted his conversion.<br /><br />Contrary to the belief that Warakah wrote the Quran, the Quran was memorized first before it was written. Quran was only written in mashhaf form during the reign of the first Caliphate Abu Bakar. Most of the early followers knew Quran by heart, they recite word by word in front of Muhammad, a Muslim tradition which persist <br />until today where hundreds of thousands of Muslim can recite the Quran, word by word, by heart.<br />It is important to note that People of the Book travelled from as far as North Africa to Yathrib or Medina (during the period of schism in Christianity) to escape persecution and to seek the coming of a Prophet, 200 years before Muhammad was born.<br />Islam was not created by Muhammad. As stated in the Koran, Al Baqarah<br />"O you who have believed, decreed upon you is fasting as it was decreed upon those before you that you may become righteous."<br />The word "before you" means that it was also decreed to earlier Muslims before the period of Muhammad.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06866460770541219682noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4385205961037530446.post-20240247568062426822013-05-27T20:06:07.548-04:002013-05-27T20:06:07.548-04:00It's not my first time to visit this web page,...It's not my first time to visit this web page, i am browsing this site dailly and take nice data from here all the time.<br /><br />Also visit my web site :: <a href="http://zorporno.com/category/348/pussy-fingering/" rel="nofollow">http://zorporno.com</a>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4385205961037530446.post-90727187420605485032013-05-20T18:32:25.587-04:002013-05-20T18:32:25.587-04:00A shocking book titled The Unknown History of Isla...A shocking book titled The Unknown History of Islam speaks a great deal about this article and presents more evidence that Ebionite Waraqah Ibn Naufal wrote the Quran and sponsored Muhammad into being a prophet to bring all Jews and Christians under the banner of a new religion, Islam. The book is worth looking at and reading.Sam Williamnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4385205961037530446.post-77997842970440768742013-01-24T13:58:13.173-05:002013-01-24T13:58:13.173-05:00Magnificent beat ! I would like to apprentice even...Magnificent beat ! I would like to apprentice even as you amend your website, how could i subscribe for a <br />weblog web site? 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Arabia had very few Christians at Muhammads time. In fact most Christians in Arabia were sent from Abyssinia(by orders of Constantinople) to Yemen, and Abraha attempted to conquer the SURRENDURED city of Mecca, but birds threw rocks at his elephants and they fled with an army(mentioned in the Qur'an). This was also the year of Muhammads birth. <br /><br />Nusraniyah doesn't derive from Nazareth. "The early followers of Christ were called 'Nozrei ha-Brit' or 'Nozrei brito' - keepers of His Covenant (Eisenman p.36, 99). The name of Nozrei is Hebrew terminology for Christians. In Arabic it is Nazrani. It has nothing to do with the town of Nazareth, which may not even have existed at the time of Jesus."<br /><br />The Gospel of Mathew begins with a corrupted lineage chain connecting Joseph(who was nothing to the true Jesus) to Abraham, not the Virgin Mary.<br />Only 4 members of that side were Hanif, none claimed to be Nusraniyah except Waraqa. No scholars "deliberatly ignore that side" that I know of.<br /><br />Among the characteristics of the Ebionites was compassion for the poor and the orphaned. That in no way has to do with the fact that Muhammad was an orphan and helped the poor. All religions of the least common sense will give special rights to orphans and needy, even the original Jesus did. So you'd have to say that Jesus himself was an Ebionite Jew!<br /><br />The main points of refutation is Mary's virgin birth. This is universaly accepted by islam, but is totally rejected by Ebionites. They were also strict vegitarians, unlike Muslims who just refrained from pork. If Waraqa did in fact teach Muhammad, he left out the most important parts!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4385205961037530446.post-32692993114107908912012-03-24T22:53:25.675-04:002012-03-24T22:53:25.675-04:00Waraqa was considered a Nestorian not an Ebionite!...Waraqa was considered a Nestorian not an Ebionite!Rifaashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01344369359725396903noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4385205961037530446.post-63992149990932507982011-12-28T19:39:31.682-05:002011-12-28T19:39:31.682-05:00Salam,
Thanks for the writing. I'm muslim, an...Salam,<br /><br />Thanks for the writing. I'm muslim, and thanks to my dad who forced me into madrassa in elementary and middle school, i know more of Muhammad than my muslim friends who went to public school in indonesia<br /><br />Waraqa bin naufal was indeed the go-to man anytime Prophet received verses (i'm using islamic perspective that is the Prophet received those ayats from God via Gabriel) . I am always fascinated by waraqa. <br /><br />Thanks again for the beautifully written article. I love comparing differen religions thanks to my dad and uncle (who is kyai-scholar) as they gave me christian bible, jewish torah, bhagavad gita when i was only 10 in adition to compulsory mastering arabic to translate qur'an by myself ad arabic is not my mother tongue.<br /><br />Your article suggest that Muhammad acted as Ebionite priest, at least for some time, i myself dont mind. As long as his teaching takes me to worship one God, i'm fine. <br /><br />God knows bestAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4385205961037530446.post-69811867125120656332011-05-01T22:03:53.119-04:002011-05-01T22:03:53.119-04:00I've been doing research for the past few mont...I've been doing research for the past few months which included this topic. This journal entry, by far, was one of the best things I've found along the way. Thank you. <br /><br />Will read more of your blogs. I can tell already that it'll end up being one of my favorites :)thefrenziedchameleonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00055130822434774960noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4385205961037530446.post-37739805324674746522010-10-23T09:33:11.277-04:002010-10-23T09:33:11.277-04:00Wow, that was very interesting information! Thank...Wow, that was very interesting information! Thanks for taking time to share it with us!Susannehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03115294023069458287noreply@blogger.com